If you don't have motion, the oil superheats rises to the top and flashes. The tank dimensions are up to you.... just remember.... VOLUME + PREHEAT + MOTION/FLOW = GOOD QUENCH, So do you use a small pump and a dip tube to move fluid, or is your plumbing welded in? I knocked over my horizontal quench tank. I was gonna go horizontal, but after reading a hamon tutorial by John White and seeing the results he got even in a vertical tank; I figured I would give it a try. Find a method that best addresses the BASIC metallurgical needs..... don't kill yourself attempting to make the Holy Grail of knives.... Its supposed to be fun, too!!! I limit the steels I use to oil quenching only. Sign up for a new account in our community. Or are troughs of some sort or another better? All Rights Reserved. 529. By I commend you on your choice of oil. That precious "1 sec" form critical to 900F is SOOOOOOOO important. The tank stands 34" tall.

Is something like this a good idea? They are stainless, have a lid, and are long enough for anything shorter than a sword.   You cannot paste images directly. Tested blades have shown no difference in RC hardness readings from tip to heel. Japanese swords traditionally used horizontal troughs, edge quenched knives often use a baking pan with a rest on the bottom. There is also a cheap "filter" through caswell that works also as an agitator. If you don;t have room to add cooler oil, you'll have to wait it out. I would like to make a basket at some point... it would be much easier. Upload or insert images from URL.

My tank will fit inside a bucket of water safely and I set it in until the temps come down. You will find no better for that steel. Horizontal & Vertical Quench Tank I had this idea a while back while on coffee break and sketched a quench tank that would accommodate both horizontal and vertical quenching. ace roto-mold vertical tanks conform to the requirements of nsf/ansi standard 61. tanks are manufactured from medium- or high-density polyethylene with u.v. And lastly make sure it is not tippy.

thanks, OldMan Best of all it has a lid in case you have a flash up. So i'd proly just buy one again to move the oil around quickly. My knife quench is vegetable oil and is in the bottom half of a pressurized gas tank that is mounted in a "no tip" wooden frame.

Post Aug 17, 2012 #1 2012-08-17T22:34. You need to be able to heat your oil to 120F-140F in most cases. When the oil hits 120 degrees you are ready to go. Without having to rig up a tank with pumps and heating elements, the next best thing is moving the blade. Smaller size tanks work well for regular knife quenching. I like mine hinged so I can flip it shut with a pair of tongs when the oil flashes. I heat the oil up by dunking a warm piece of steel in it and checking the oil temp with a thermometer. I have a monster horizontal water quench that I was doing Japanese style stuff in, but I've been doing that vertical lately as well. Avadon, The lid is a great feature that can help smother out flare ups and the 8"x8"x3/8" base makes for a nice sturdy platform. I think you'll see far more vertical tanks simply because of the availability of the material used to make the tank - pipes, gas tanks, etc. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser.

So I finally broke down and ordered some P-50 and W2, so I needed to get a new quench tank. Meridian Mfg.

  Pasted as rich text. You have to consider the vapor barrier that forms around the blade as it rapidly heats the quenchant, too.   Your previous content has been restored.

I quench knives and swords in it. The large sizes offer especially good values. One steel one quenchant and a log book and a good testing program again with notes will put you farther along in less time than bouncing around with different steels and different quenchants. I'm thinking something that I could put a lid on would be nice to keep contaminents out of it. Yes, I think 6 inch diameter is more than enough, especially for oil quenching.

For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. srtben. Do you use a basket on the bottom in case you drop something? Are there any charts that show correlation of what kinds of oil to use for what kinds of steel alloys? Also do your quench tanks sit on an angle to make them easier to quench into? Meridian’s UL-142 approved fuel tanks feature the same design, strength and quality standards that incorporate all Meridian products. Nice. (as you put it in, the surface will flash a bit, but should go out quickly) These double walled, 100% containment tanks are ideal for a variety of liquid products, preventing costly leaks and providing environmentally safe storage. I have given a lot of thought to going to the local plumbing shop or salvage yard and scrounge up a small, apartment size water heater. The lid is a great feature that can help smother out flare ups … quench tank were unable to keep the oil at the proper operating temper-ature. So I went ahead and just made a vertical one. srtben. So maybe I would get more mileage out of a tall rectangular shape? tank are free standing with a flat bottom for indoor or outdoor installations. The vertical cylindrical shape is the most efficient of the standard tank shapes in regard to the amount of plastic it takes per stored gallon. I have two for two different speeds of oil. Yah I will probably get myself some of these Caswell Inc. - Heaters & Thermostats tank heaters.. 2-3 should do it and they do the job quite well for 5gallons of fluid. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, Archives - Read Only, For Storage of Old Threads, o see more of my bladesmithing and other work; visit, World Atlatl Association General Discussion Forum, Australian wood for bows (not just Eucalytps! Owner contact email: info@meridianmfg.com. I chose the next best thing... which is blade movement. Any tips on this kind of a setup?? These double walled, 100% containment tanks are ideal for a variety of liquid products, preventing costly leaks and providing environmentally safe storage. I almost broke down and just got an ammo can, but I wanted to be able quench up to 22".

If I quench a large knife or more than one small one wehn I recheck the oil temp it has gotten too warm to do another.

Now there's a handy beast. 2020 USA Knifemaker, LLC. If your tank is too small the oil will over heat.

This quench tank will hold 3.5 gallons of oil and should give you more quenches than the 4" tank before needing to cool, unless you are using a much bigger piece of steel. (even less time, in some steels) That makes movement a critcal factor. That's when you need to cut the oxygen off.

inhibitors. 500 gallon vertical tank size b scale: 1/16 norwesco, inc. saint bonifacius, mn rev b revision history rev description date author a redrawn 1/2/1997 b redrawn 7/26/2013 michael holden 10 8 471 48 2 22 181 2 p163 8 3 61 16 30 69 16 1 9 611 2 701 2 3 x 1 4 deep 131 16 2 3 16 4 3 4 71 8 65 8 Mine is an 8" dia SS tube welde to a 10"square baseplate. I made a vertical tank but have been hesitant to use it until I had better understanding of this.

A great, cheap quench tank is a soda pop keg. My interest in knife making is to learn how to forge edged weapons. Any tips on this kind of a setup?? Research your steel and its properties. The depth is 18" which should be sufficient for most knife sizes.

Is it better to have a larger surface area so you can quench horizontally or is it better to quench more vertically in a more upright tank? Sort of depends on how and what you are quenching. I use peanut oil. I love the shrak mouth. Unless the entire tank heats up... then the fire on top perpetuates itself and the oil keep burning. i nade it so i can set it by the forge(coal) to heat the oil up, it works well for me,bol jimmy.

Mine is an 8" dia SS tube welde to a 10"square baseplate. The lid is a great feature that can help smother out flare ups and the 10"x10"x3/8" base makes for a nice sturdy platform. air/water tight seal on the lid, which can easily be replaced in case of fire. You also need to have symetrical flow if you choose to agitate your tank. This works for me. Some folks use really large quench tanks that are not as easy to heat up when in use. Would there be issues with the circulating pump with thinner blades (warping because of irregular oil movement)? So I went ahead and just made a vertical one. Registered User. Much easier and more precise temperature then quenching hot iron to raise/control the temp. The brass/copper ones would probably work well, too. Is used motor oil ok for quenching?

designs and fabricates aboveground shop fabricated steel storage tanks to API 650, Annex E, F, J and S standards depending on site requirements. Any ideas for a good quench tank? bladesmithsforum.com

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Personally, I would have gone with a wider tank, but that one should work very well. Take pics for the rest of us when you get it figured out. Set the dial at whatever and use a cooking thermometer. An experimental study on flow patterns and heat transfer characteristics during cryogenic chilldown in a vertical pipe Hong Hua,⇑, Jacob N. Chunga, Samuel H. Amberb a Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering, University of Florida, Gainesville, Florida 32611, United States bDepartment of Physics and Nuclear Engineering, U.S. Military Academy, West point, New York 10928, … I'm looking for something that would make a good quench tank, annoyingly I saw a zinc trough for planting flowers in that was perfect, OK zinc melts at quite a low temp but I suspect that it'd be enough....but it had a hole on it for draining water. What kind of quench tanks are best for knife making. I have a spigot about 8" up from the bottom of my tank to lower the level enough to get something out. I still need to make a lid for it. I got mine for 8 bucks at a yard sale but I have seen them in thrift stores. As with all quench tanks, make a … i use a piece of drive shaft that i cut in to, it's about 3".

If you don't have motion, the oil superheats rises to the top and flashes. The tank dimensions are up to you.... just remember.... VOLUME + PREHEAT + MOTION/FLOW = GOOD QUENCH, So do you use a small pump and a dip tube to move fluid, or is your plumbing welded in? I knocked over my horizontal quench tank. I was gonna go horizontal, but after reading a hamon tutorial by John White and seeing the results he got even in a vertical tank; I figured I would give it a try. Find a method that best addresses the BASIC metallurgical needs..... don't kill yourself attempting to make the Holy Grail of knives.... Its supposed to be fun, too!!! I limit the steels I use to oil quenching only. Sign up for a new account in our community. Or are troughs of some sort or another better? All Rights Reserved. 529. By I commend you on your choice of oil. That precious "1 sec" form critical to 900F is SOOOOOOOO important. The tank stands 34" tall.

Is something like this a good idea? They are stainless, have a lid, and are long enough for anything shorter than a sword.   You cannot paste images directly. Tested blades have shown no difference in RC hardness readings from tip to heel. Japanese swords traditionally used horizontal troughs, edge quenched knives often use a baking pan with a rest on the bottom. There is also a cheap "filter" through caswell that works also as an agitator. If you don;t have room to add cooler oil, you'll have to wait it out. I would like to make a basket at some point... it would be much easier. Upload or insert images from URL.

My tank will fit inside a bucket of water safely and I set it in until the temps come down. You will find no better for that steel. Horizontal & Vertical Quench Tank I had this idea a while back while on coffee break and sketched a quench tank that would accommodate both horizontal and vertical quenching. ace roto-mold vertical tanks conform to the requirements of nsf/ansi standard 61. tanks are manufactured from medium- or high-density polyethylene with u.v. And lastly make sure it is not tippy.

thanks, OldMan Best of all it has a lid in case you have a flash up. So i'd proly just buy one again to move the oil around quickly. My knife quench is vegetable oil and is in the bottom half of a pressurized gas tank that is mounted in a "no tip" wooden frame.

Post Aug 17, 2012 #1 2012-08-17T22:34. You need to be able to heat your oil to 120F-140F in most cases. When the oil hits 120 degrees you are ready to go. Without having to rig up a tank with pumps and heating elements, the next best thing is moving the blade. Smaller size tanks work well for regular knife quenching. I like mine hinged so I can flip it shut with a pair of tongs when the oil flashes. I heat the oil up by dunking a warm piece of steel in it and checking the oil temp with a thermometer. I have a monster horizontal water quench that I was doing Japanese style stuff in, but I've been doing that vertical lately as well. Avadon, The lid is a great feature that can help smother out flare ups and the 8"x8"x3/8" base makes for a nice sturdy platform. I think you'll see far more vertical tanks simply because of the availability of the material used to make the tank - pipes, gas tanks, etc. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser.

So I finally broke down and ordered some P-50 and W2, so I needed to get a new quench tank. Meridian Mfg.

  Pasted as rich text. You have to consider the vapor barrier that forms around the blade as it rapidly heats the quenchant, too.   Your previous content has been restored.

I quench knives and swords in it. The large sizes offer especially good values. One steel one quenchant and a log book and a good testing program again with notes will put you farther along in less time than bouncing around with different steels and different quenchants. I'm thinking something that I could put a lid on would be nice to keep contaminents out of it. Yes, I think 6 inch diameter is more than enough, especially for oil quenching.

For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. srtben. Do you use a basket on the bottom in case you drop something? Are there any charts that show correlation of what kinds of oil to use for what kinds of steel alloys? Also do your quench tanks sit on an angle to make them easier to quench into? Meridian’s UL-142 approved fuel tanks feature the same design, strength and quality standards that incorporate all Meridian products. Nice. (as you put it in, the surface will flash a bit, but should go out quickly) These double walled, 100% containment tanks are ideal for a variety of liquid products, preventing costly leaks and providing environmentally safe storage. I have given a lot of thought to going to the local plumbing shop or salvage yard and scrounge up a small, apartment size water heater. The lid is a great feature that can help smother out flare ups … quench tank were unable to keep the oil at the proper operating temper-ature. So I went ahead and just made a vertical one. srtben. So maybe I would get more mileage out of a tall rectangular shape? tank are free standing with a flat bottom for indoor or outdoor installations. The vertical cylindrical shape is the most efficient of the standard tank shapes in regard to the amount of plastic it takes per stored gallon. I have two for two different speeds of oil. Yah I will probably get myself some of these Caswell Inc. - Heaters & Thermostats tank heaters.. 2-3 should do it and they do the job quite well for 5gallons of fluid. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, Archives - Read Only, For Storage of Old Threads, o see more of my bladesmithing and other work; visit, World Atlatl Association General Discussion Forum, Australian wood for bows (not just Eucalytps! Owner contact email: info@meridianmfg.com. I chose the next best thing... which is blade movement. Any tips on this kind of a setup?? These double walled, 100% containment tanks are ideal for a variety of liquid products, preventing costly leaks and providing environmentally safe storage. I almost broke down and just got an ammo can, but I wanted to be able quench up to 22".

If I quench a large knife or more than one small one wehn I recheck the oil temp it has gotten too warm to do another.

Now there's a handy beast. 2020 USA Knifemaker, LLC. If your tank is too small the oil will over heat.

This quench tank will hold 3.5 gallons of oil and should give you more quenches than the 4" tank before needing to cool, unless you are using a much bigger piece of steel. (even less time, in some steels) That makes movement a critcal factor. That's when you need to cut the oxygen off.

inhibitors. 500 gallon vertical tank size b scale: 1/16 norwesco, inc. saint bonifacius, mn rev b revision history rev description date author a redrawn 1/2/1997 b redrawn 7/26/2013 michael holden 10 8 471 48 2 22 181 2 p163 8 3 61 16 30 69 16 1 9 611 2 701 2 3 x 1 4 deep 131 16 2 3 16 4 3 4 71 8 65 8 Mine is an 8" dia SS tube welde to a 10"square baseplate. I made a vertical tank but have been hesitant to use it until I had better understanding of this.

A great, cheap quench tank is a soda pop keg. My interest in knife making is to learn how to forge edged weapons. Any tips on this kind of a setup?? Research your steel and its properties. The depth is 18" which should be sufficient for most knife sizes.

Is it better to have a larger surface area so you can quench horizontally or is it better to quench more vertically in a more upright tank? Sort of depends on how and what you are quenching. I use peanut oil. I love the shrak mouth. Unless the entire tank heats up... then the fire on top perpetuates itself and the oil keep burning. i nade it so i can set it by the forge(coal) to heat the oil up, it works well for me,bol jimmy.

Mine is an 8" dia SS tube welde to a 10"square baseplate. The lid is a great feature that can help smother out flare ups and the 10"x10"x3/8" base makes for a nice sturdy platform. air/water tight seal on the lid, which can easily be replaced in case of fire. You also need to have symetrical flow if you choose to agitate your tank. This works for me. Some folks use really large quench tanks that are not as easy to heat up when in use. Would there be issues with the circulating pump with thinner blades (warping because of irregular oil movement)? So I went ahead and just made a vertical one. Registered User. Much easier and more precise temperature then quenching hot iron to raise/control the temp. The brass/copper ones would probably work well, too. Is used motor oil ok for quenching?

designs and fabricates aboveground shop fabricated steel storage tanks to API 650, Annex E, F, J and S standards depending on site requirements. Any ideas for a good quench tank? bladesmithsforum.com

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